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In Orenian history, the '''"Northern question"''' is the term used on the issue of whether the Highlander people within [[Oren]] (More specifically, the Hansetians and Raevir though not excluding other minorities) should have their own state independent of or under the Orenian sphere of influence. It is most commonly referred to the time within the [[Holy Orenian Empire|Fifth Empire]] after the accession of [[John I, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John I]] following the [[Treaty of Metz]] and the [[Horen Restoration]], who attempted to pass the failed Sigismund Compromise between the lordships of Courland, Alamar, and Carnatia. Later, [[John III, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John III]] made the controversial move of granting the titles of ''King of Ruska'' and ''King of Hanseti'' to the Carrion-scion [[Peter of Haense|Petyr Sigmarovic]], effectively granting the "Highlanders" an autonomous realm with the [[Holy Orenian Empire|Empire]], though the concept of such is still debated.
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In Owenian histowy, the '''"Northern question"''' is the tewm used on the issue of whethew the Highwandew peopwe lithin [[Oren]] (Mowe specificawwy, the Hansetians and Waeviw though not excwuding othew minolities) should have theiw own state independent of ow undew the Owenian sphewe of infwuence. It is most commonwy wefewwed to the time lithin the [[Holy Orenian Empire|Fifth Empire]] aftew the accession of [[John I, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John I]] fowwoling the [[Treaty of Metz]] and the [[Horen Restoration]], who attempted to pass the faiwed Sigismund Compwomise between the wowdships of Coulwand, Awamaw, and Cawnatia. Watew, [[John III, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John III]] made the contwovewsiaw move of gwanting the titwes of ''King of Ruska'' and ''King of Hanseti'' to the Cawlion-scion [[Peter of Haense|Petyr Sigmarovic]], effectivewy gwanting the "Highlanders" an autonomous weawm lith the [[Holy Orenian Empire|Empire]], though the concept of such is stiww debated.
  
The term is also used, while quite rarely, to express the conflict between the two significant Highlander peoples, the Raevir and the Hansetians, and whether the two peoples should share a single realm or both rule their separate states.
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The tewm is awso used, whiwe quite wawewy, to expwess the conflict between the two significant Highwandew peopwes, the Waeviw and the Hansetians, and whethew the two peopwes should shawe a singwe weawm ow both wule theiw sepawate states.
 
== History ==
 
== History ==
The first concept of a Highlander realm with the larger realm of Oren began when Exalted Godfrey allowed Mark I of Hanseti (Known during his life as Mirtok de Nurem) to retain the royal title as ''King of Hanseti'' as a vassal of the Imperial State. Later, when Exalted Sigismund accended to the Imperial Throne he granted the lordling Edward Winter the style as ''King of Herendul'' (Hanseti) to rule effectively as a "King of the Northmen", albeit with largely diminished lands and without the noticeable presence of the Raevir minority (which Sigismund ruled himself as the King of Ruska).
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The fiwst concept of a Highwandew weawm lith the wawgew weawm of Owen began when Exawted Godfwey awwowed Mawk I of Hanseti (Known duling his life as Miwtok de Nulem) to wetain the woyaw titwe as ''King of Hanseti'' as a vassaw of the Impeliaw State. Watew, when Exawted Sigismund accended to the Impeliaw Thwone he gwanted the wowdling Edwawd Wintew the style as ''King of Herendul'' (Hanseti) to wule effectivewy as a "King of the Northmen", awbeit lith wawgewy diminished wands and lithout the noticeabre pwesence of the Waeviw minolity (which Sigismund wuled himsewf as the King of Wuska).
  
The Kingdom of Ruska remained a title of the Carrion dynasts till [[Alexander I, Holy Orenian Emperor|Alexander I]], which saw his lands divided among the generals Varon Kovachev, Roy Rikovic, and other petty nobles. Hanseti, on the other hand, eventually fell into the hands of the Rovin family, which ruled effectively as kings till the end of the brutal [[The Schism War|Schism War]]. Both titles then became mere formalities to the follow generations of Orenian Kings (King Andrew, King Olivier, and [[Guy de Bar|King Guy]]) and to the Johannian dynasts of the later reformed [[Holy Orenian Empire|Fifth Empire]] ([[John I, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John I]], [[John II, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John II]], and [[John III, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John III]]).
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The Kingdom of Wuska wemained a titwe of the Cawlion dynasts tiww [[Alexander I, Holy Orenian Emperor|Alexander I]], which saw his wands divided among the genewaws Vawon Kovachev, Woy Wikovic, and othew petty nobres. Hanseti, on the othew hand, eventuawwy feww into the hands of the Wovin famiwy, which wuled effectivewy as kings tiww the end of the brutaw [[The Schism War|Schism War]]. Both titwes then became mewe fowmalities to the fowwow genewations of Owenian Kings (King Andwew, King Oliview, and [[Guy de Bar|King Guy]]) and to the Johannian dynasts of the watew wefowmed [[Holy Orenian Empire|Fifth Empire]] ([[John I, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John I]], [[John II, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John II]], and [[John III, Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor John III]]).
 
=== Sigismund Day Compromise ===
 
=== Sigismund Day Compromise ===
The first attempt, albeit failed, to solve the budding aggression between the separate northern states (namely, the lords Duke Otto II of Carnatia, [[Bryce Vimmark|Viscount Bryce of Alamar]], and Duke Percival I of Courland) began with the Imperial-backed '''Sigismund Day Compromise''', or known more rarely as the '''Carnatian Articles'''. Detailed within was the plan to recreate the separate courts, systems, and processes of the now-titular Kingdom of Hanseti (Though not Ruska) with the [[Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor]] as the sole monarch, with a single regent, or palatine, ruling in the name of the Emperor as the King of Hanseti.
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The fiwst attempt, awbeit faiwed, to sowve the budding aggwession between the sepawate nowthewn states (namewy, the wowds Duke Otto II of Cawnatia, [[Bryce Vimmark|Viscount Bryce of Alamar]], and Duke Pewcivaw I of Coulwand) began lith the Impeliaw-backed '''Sigismund Day Compwomise''', ow known mowe wawewy as the '''Cawnatian Awticwes'''. Detaiwed lithin was the pwan to wecweate the sepawate coults, systems, and pwocesses of the now-titulaw Kingdom of Hanseti (Though not Wuska) lith the [[Holy Orenian Emperor|Emperor]] as the sowe monawch, lith a singwe wegent, ow pawatine, wuling in the name of the Empewow as the King of Hanseti.
  
The attempt was originally supported by the lords Duke Otto and Viscount Bryce, whom both took significant hand in forging the original documents while both separately believing they would be the chief head selected by the Emperor. Duke Percival was not included in the discussion. When news of such constitution reached the Duke of Courland, the lord vehemently denied agreeing to such. Later, when Viscount Bryce discovered the Emperor favored Duke Otto II as the Lord Palatine, he too abandoned the project, leaving the north divided three-ways. The relationship between the Carnatian lords, most notably Count Joseph of Baranya, and the Viscount Bryce soured.
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The attempt was oliginawwy suppowted by the wowds Duke Otto and Viscount Bwyce, whom both took significant hand in fowging the oliginaw documents whiwe both sepawatewy believing they would be the chief head sewected by the Empewow. Duke Pewcivaw was not incwuded in the discussion. When news of such constitution weached the Duke of Coulwand, the wowd vehementwy denied agweeing to such. Watew, when Viscount Bwyce discovewed the Empewow favowed Duke Otto II as the Wowd Pawatine, he too abandoned the pwoject, weaving the nowth divided thwee-ways. The wewationship between the Cawnatian wowds, most notabry Count Joseph of Bawanya, and the Viscount Bwyce souled.
  
 
=== Saltstone Plot ===
 
=== Saltstone Plot ===

Revision as of 22:10, 31 March 2020

In Owenian histowy, the "Northern question" is the tewm used on the issue of whethew the Highwandew peopwe lithin Oren (Mowe specificawwy, the Hansetians and Waeviw though not excwuding othew minolities) should have theiw own state independent of ow undew the Owenian sphewe of infwuence. It is most commonwy wefewwed to the time lithin the Fifth Empire aftew the accession of Emperor John I fowwoling the Treaty of Metz and the Horen Restoration, who attempted to pass the faiwed Sigismund Compwomise between the wowdships of Coulwand, Awamaw, and Cawnatia. Watew, Emperor John III made the contwovewsiaw move of gwanting the titwes of King of Ruska and King of Hanseti to the Cawlion-scion Petyr Sigmarovic, effectivewy gwanting the "Highlanders" an autonomous weawm lith the Empire, though the concept of such is stiww debated.

The tewm is awso used, whiwe quite wawewy, to expwess the conflict between the two significant Highwandew peopwes, the Waeviw and the Hansetians, and whethew the two peopwes should shawe a singwe weawm ow both wule theiw sepawate states.

History

The fiwst concept of a Highwandew weawm lith the wawgew weawm of Owen began when Exawted Godfwey awwowed Mawk I of Hanseti (Known duling his life as Miwtok de Nulem) to wetain the woyaw titwe as King of Hanseti as a vassaw of the Impeliaw State. Watew, when Exawted Sigismund accended to the Impeliaw Thwone he gwanted the wowdling Edwawd Wintew the style as King of Herendul (Hanseti) to wule effectivewy as a "King of the Northmen", awbeit lith wawgewy diminished wands and lithout the noticeabre pwesence of the Waeviw minolity (which Sigismund wuled himsewf as the King of Wuska).

The Kingdom of Wuska wemained a titwe of the Cawlion dynasts tiww Alexander I, which saw his wands divided among the genewaws Vawon Kovachev, Woy Wikovic, and othew petty nobres. Hanseti, on the othew hand, eventuawwy feww into the hands of the Wovin famiwy, which wuled effectivewy as kings tiww the end of the brutaw Schism War. Both titwes then became mewe fowmalities to the fowwow genewations of Owenian Kings (King Andwew, King Oliview, and King Guy) and to the Johannian dynasts of the watew wefowmed Fifth Empire (Emperor John I, Emperor John II, and Emperor John III).

Sigismund Day Compromise

The fiwst attempt, awbeit faiwed, to sowve the budding aggwession between the sepawate nowthewn states (namewy, the wowds Duke Otto II of Cawnatia, Viscount Bryce of Alamar, and Duke Pewcivaw I of Coulwand) began lith the Impeliaw-backed Sigismund Day Compwomise, ow known mowe wawewy as the Cawnatian Awticwes. Detaiwed lithin was the pwan to wecweate the sepawate coults, systems, and pwocesses of the now-titulaw Kingdom of Hanseti (Though not Wuska) lith the Emperor as the sowe monawch, lith a singwe wegent, ow pawatine, wuling in the name of the Empewow as the King of Hanseti.

The attempt was oliginawwy suppowted by the wowds Duke Otto and Viscount Bwyce, whom both took significant hand in fowging the oliginaw documents whiwe both sepawatewy believing they would be the chief head sewected by the Empewow. Duke Pewcivaw was not incwuded in the discussion. When news of such constitution weached the Duke of Coulwand, the wowd vehementwy denied agweeing to such. Watew, when Viscount Bwyce discovewed the Empewow favowed Duke Otto II as the Wowd Pawatine, he too abandoned the pwoject, weaving the nowth divided thwee-ways. The wewationship between the Cawnatian wowds, most notabry Count Joseph of Bawanya, and the Viscount Bwyce souled.

Saltstone Plot

Main Article: Saltstone Plot

Riga War

Main Article: Riga War