Talk:Battle of Westmark

Folks use the talk page if you want to discuss something instead of continually undoing each other's edits. -- Destinator8 (talk) 00:05, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Also check out https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Talk_pages for talk page formatting -- Destinator8 (talk) 00:05, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

Dude, stop posting false information, leave my post and if you have any problems with it, send for some GMs and LTs and we can all discuss this.

I'll tell you again what I told you before. All the information that I've posted on all the articles that I've made are true and can be backed by facts. The only issue at hand is whether or not this battle was part of the Riga War, which it was not. My reasoning for saying so is because you called in foreign allies in RP (orcs, dreadlanders, dwarves) and they fought with you, while our side has other Imperial aligned players fighting with us on their Imperial characters (wood elves and nauzicans, etc). This battle falls under the Krajian Rebellion portion of the wiki, which I will be working on after the 18 years' war and the Riga war are completed. If you've any further arguments, please leave them below and I'll respond to them to the best of my ability. I hope someone from the wiki team monitors this conversation so that, should this talk page come to incessant rambling with no progress, one can make a decision and end our debate. I would also propose that no work be done on this page or on the Riga War page until we've come to a decision here. -- Pureimp

I will be monitoring the future editing revolving this debate and hopefully we can all reach a solution and a factual, unbias page for all to enjoy.--Yoppl (talk) 04:38, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

As I stated when you PMd me, there are several reasons why this is still part of the Riga war.

1. We did not officially call in allies, there was only a few external people that came to help, a few of whom had defected from the carnatian side, many of the people who you claim were external had courland Alta. This is shown by the RP post posted immediately after the battle, which I can't link because the wiki doesn't allow me to, but search it on lotc.

2. This battle was a continuation of my campaign against Carnatia, and took place after the siege of Krakens Watch. I posted the warclaim to retake Krakens Watch, the war goal of thenRiga war for both sides.

3. These battles took place outside of Riga, not Kraja. As I told you in PMs, I accept that the following warclaim was a separate war as it was:

a) Fought elsewhere b) Had different war goals c) contained different factions

The battle of Westmark was

a) Fought in the same place b) Had the same war goals c) Contained the same factions

You can see the difference in the number of people who participated on my side when allies were actually called in, from 70 or so in the battle of Westmark, to twice that number at the following battle. The latter was the time we called in allies. Also, you're numbers are massively skewed. - Vege